Twitch originally ran on a Mac mini running Windows XP

Justin had the idea of like “oh we should just record them and post them online”. You know it was like a nuclear chain reaction: “oh we should post these online”. Well we’re too lazy to do that. “Why do we just live stream all of our conversations all the time?” “If we’re going to do that, why don’t we do it with video also because like, you know, people might want to have the video.” And then if we’re going to live stream all the conversations, we might as well set it up to live stream someone’s entire life 24/7. Justin took the critical step which was “I should actually stream my life 24/7 on the Internet.”

Then we kind of found ourselves stuck in this place, where, what do we do now? We’ve got this thing. We could stay here. We might even be able to make it profitable. We could work on it for a while, it’s not really going anywhere and so we had this moment where we all met up and said “we need to do something with this company.” There were two schools of thought.

One of them was mobile. At the time the iPhone was new, and we thought “there was this real opportunity to build mobile video”. There were no good mobile video players in the space and we thought that could be big.

Then there was this second idea around gaming which I was interested in primarily because it was the only content on Justin.tv that I personally watched.

We actually said, this time, instead of just launching random features and guessing whether they work or not we are going to set real goals for the two projects, one around mobile, and one around gaming, and we’re going to try to hit those goals.

So we setup two teams internally. One lead by Michael (Seibel), our then CEO, which turned into Socialcam and ended up getting spun off and then a second one lead by me in partnership with Kevin Lin who was our COO. The two of us really believed in the gaming part mostly because we’re big gamers.

We did the minimum possible work to get a show onto the Internet. When we launched it, it could only have one channel.

The way broadcasting worked, the only we could get it to work consistently, was we had a Mac mini running Parallels, which is a virtualization environment, for Windows XP where we had this piece of broadcasting software that we were automating with Windows shell scripting to pick up the camera input, and then auto reboot if it went down because it broke all the time because it was really buggy software.

That extremely jury-rigged thing worked. It put a video stream on the Internet. We could not scale that up to thousands of streams. It was impossible. But we got something that was at least compelling to one person on the Internet. That was compelling to us.

That was a critical step for us. Before we did that we basically weren’t learning anything.

Michael: You know the other thing I was trying to remember, and cut this if this is if this is bad, but there used to be passwords that would be like the first letter of all of our names. What order was it in? Do you remember this?

Kyle: k-e-m-j

Emmett: yeah k-e-m-j that's right. It was like the root password to our servers.

Michael: We did remove challenges completely. Like I think we completely removed it from the site.

Kyle: It didn’t take too long. It wasn’t up there for months as this decaying fragment to the site.

Emmett: That’s fast. Cutting something after months is fast. I actually think that was something we were pretty good at. Being like “oh that was a mistake” and then not doing it anymore.

Kyle: There is startup time. It takes a month to launch and two months to kill.

If you look back on it, we kind of new how to program? We weren’t very good in retrospect. We didn’t really know what we were doing. I thought that you had to use a database from Java. I didn’t understand that that was a separate thing and they didn’t have anything to do with each other.

We really, really didn’t know what we were doing. We didn’t know how to make product decisions. We didn’t know how to raise money. We didn’t know how to hire people. We certainly didn’t know how to manage people. And we had basically none of the skills.

All we had was a desire to make it happen and an amazing support network of people who were helping us make it happen.

I’ve found that when faced with a set of seemingly insurmountable challenges, the first step towards making it easier is to break things down into as large a set of small individual tasks as possible

That was when I guess made the final step, this was 5 or 6 years in as an entrepreneur, and had put together all the skills needed to actually run a company.

I could build products, I understood the engineering side, I could manage people. I had spent years painfully making mistakes, losing lots of employees. I’d figured out how to do hiring, we figured out how to scale product if we needed to. I knew how companies might make money or lose money and what I finally could do when we were here was I finally got the extra bonus skill of how to talk to users.